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ND110 – 10 stops

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  • Deneys
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    I did a search on the following title “ND110” but with no luck and was wondering if anyone in the forum used them before ?
    if so

    1. Where can I get one
    2. How do you work out how long the shutter needs to stay open if in Aperture mode mine just says “Lo” when subjects to dark

  • adejager
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    I don’t think it is called a ND110 – but I assume you are looking for a 10 stop Neutral Density filter? Search for the Hoya ND400 (9 stop) or B+W 110 (10 stop). I couldn’t find them in SA though.

    The general procedure for long exposure shots is to compose and meter without the filter in aperture priority. Switch to manual focus to prevent the camera from trying to AF – since it will not work with a 10 stop filter in the way. Take note of the shutter speed suggested in aperture priority mode. Now switch to manual mode and set the aperture just like before and decrease the shutter speed by 10 stops (or 9 stops in the case of the Hoya). Screw on the filter and take the shot. You might need a remote to get really long exposures.

  • Deneys
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    @synapseza 206415 wrote:

    I don’t think it is called a ND110 – but I assume you are looking for a 10 stop Neutral Density filter? Search for the Hoya ND400 (9 stop) or B+W 110 (10 stop). I couldn’t find them in SA though.

    The general procedure for long exposure shots is to compose and meter without the filter in aperture priority. Switch to manual focus to prevent the camera from trying to AF – since it will not work with a 10 stop filter in the way. Take note of the shutter speed suggested in aperture priority mode. Now switch to manual mode and set the aperture just like before and decrease the shutter speed by 10 stops (or 9 stops in the case of the Hoya). Screw on the filter and take the shot. You might need a remote to get really long exposures.

    Thanks for the reply make sense.

  • Deneys
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    I couldn’t find them in SA though.

    Did you import ?

  • adejager
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    Just a small clarification: You can use AF during composition before you screw the filter on, just switch to MF before you take the shot.

  • adejager
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    @deneys 206419 wrote:

    Did you import ?

    Got one in the UK. Maybe someone else on here knows of a SA supplier?

    As an aside, if you have loads of cash to burn (:D), Singh-Ray makes an adjustable ND filter (http://www.singh-ray.com/varind.html) as well as an adjustable ND/CPL combo (http://www.singh-ray.com/varinduo.html).

  • janosa
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    I have a B+W ND110 filter and am quite happy with it. It is not neutral though, which can be a bit of a pain. It has a fairly strong reddish cast to it, but that can be taken care of with a custom WB. Just be aware of it. It is also by far the heaviest filter I own with a very solid brass ring. Typical exposure with the filter in place on a summer afternoon is iso100, f11, 60 seconds. During twilight you’ll be shooting 6 minute exposure or longer. For some reason my camera does not meter accurately with the filter in place, and the meter under-exposes by about 2-3 stops. As mentioned, just focus and meter with the filter removed and add 10 stops. I’d also suggest a very sturdy tripod if you are considering this filter.

    To give you an idea of what it can do, this was shot at about 4-5 pm in December. The waves have nearly no shape at all over 60 seconds.
    4181667022_783ce6915a.jpg

    I believe the 9 stop Hoya x400 is available here in SA through various channels, though it won’t be regularly stocked item. Try the ODP shop and see if they can order one for you. I could not find a supplier for B+W in SA so I imported from the US.

  • Stanberg
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    I bought an ND400 from a fellow ODP member who imported a couple of them
    Much easier to use if you have Live View on your camera
    Took this shot with the ND400

  • Krypty
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    Also imported mine, just PM me and I can send you more details in regards to it.

    Comes to about R700 – R800

    To be honest I have not had any problems with a red cast on mine.

    Here is some examples of what I did

    http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forum/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=221474&ppuser=14687

    http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forum/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=221186&ppuser=14687

    http://www.outdoorphoto.co.za/forum/photopost/showphoto.php?photo=215043&ppuser=14687

  • Deneys
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    Thanks for all the replies. That is exactly the effect I’m after.

    janosa,Stan Blumberg,Krypty Stunning work and Krypty my PM is on its way.

  • dFe
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    Also search the net for FADER ND, it’s essentially a copy of the Singh-Ray, but much more affordable.

  • HeinrichR
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    @ 206499 wrote:

    .. search the net for FADER ND, it’s essentially a copy of the Singh-Ray, but much more affordable.

    Should any one decide to go for FADER ND just have a look at this thread 🙁 , and look at the examples posted there

  • Deneys
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    @heinrichr 206505 wrote:

    Should any one decide to go for FADER ND just have a look at this thread 🙁 , and look at the examples posted there

    Thanks for the heads up I’m going to stick to Hoya or B+W I’v only heard good things about these filters so far. I just hope they make them for the 82mm diameter lens :confused: I have email a supplier I’m just waiting for there reply

    Thanks again

  • Deneys
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    Just got a reply from the supplier the next best thing he said is the Formatt filter ND2.4 +- a 8 stop.

    http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/668968-REG/

    As B+W and hoya don’t make those filters for a 82mm diameter lens.

    Has any one used this filter before ? is it any good ?

    I did a google but came back empty.

  • adejager
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    Formatt is also sold as Hitech – so try a search for that.

    Here is a post on another forum with an example of the 3.0 ND/10 stop Formatt. He also used a .6 Cokin Grad which left a magenta colour cast.

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/showpost.php?p=9807347&postcount=408

    You could always stack .9ND Hoyas, but that could lead to vignetting. Are you using a very wide angle lens?

  • HeinrichR
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    Seems like 10stops are hard to find, I see you have Cokin filters what about Lee big stop, a square 4″x4″ filter @ 10 stops, but that store doesnt have stock.

  • Krypty
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    I use the Formatt ND Grad (Hitech Filters) and they are very good.

    Deneys, I am sending you the link.

  • Deneys
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    I use the Formatt ND Grad (Hitech Filters) and they are very good.

    Deneys, I am sending you the link.

    Thanks Krypty got the PM will have a look at their Website

    Seems like 10stops are hard to find, I see you have Cokin filters what about Lee big stop, a square 4″x4″ filter @ 10 stops, but that store doesnt have stock.

    Thanks HeinrichR in South Africa they are hard to find and even harder when it’s a 82mm.I’m trying to stay away from the square filters as they leak light on long exposures.

    Formatt is also sold as Hitech – so try a search for that.

    Here is a post on another forum with an example of the 3.0 ND/10 stop Formatt. He also used a .6 Cokin Grad which left a magenta colour cast.

    http://photography-on-the.net/forum/…&postcount=408

    You could always stack .9ND Hoyas, but that could lead to vignetting. Are you using a very wide angle lens?

    Thanks Synapseza I will do so and thanks for the link. I have a 10mm wide angle on a DX format.

    Thanks again for the help and links will let you guys know what I end up with :rolleyes:

  • HeinrichR
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    When using filters , apart from ease of use, would there be any difference (image quality? glare?) when you mount the polarizer between the camera and neutral density filter as apposed to mounting the ND between the camera and polarizer

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